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Ichorid

Multiverse ID: 35923

Ichorid

Comments (20)

MasterOfEtherium
★☆☆☆☆ (1.3/5.0) (11 votes)
The Art Is Absoloutley Wicked
rubber
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0) (7 votes)
Bloodghast is clearly based off this, but it doesn't come close. This guy used to be a powerhouse.
Mode
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (6 votes)
Bloodghast is actually based off Nether Shadow.
It might not show it as clearly as Nether Traitor regarding its name, but Ichorid is in comparison definitely less related to it.

But let's get back to Ichorid itself - neat card, great fun with Buried Alive and/or Madness effects.
One of those cards you'll almost never see getting hardcast.
4wallz
★★★☆☆ (3.4/5.0) (4 votes)
This card is sick in a dredge deck. Use with Bridge From Below for a brutal beatdown.
Final_Fortune
★☆☆☆☆ (1.8/5.0) (5 votes)
To littlebeast

If you read the card, you'll see that a black creature other than Ichorid may be exiled!
FreakyM
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (9 votes)
When there's a deck archetype named after a creature, you know it's gotta pack some kind of punch.
Ironically, Ichorid decks quite rarely actually swing with this guy, more often it's graveyard recursion ability is used to generate fuel for a Dread Return flashback to bring a Flame-Kin Zealot into play.. how does that win you a game? That is where the lovely Bridge from Below steps into the action..
KillerNacho
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (5 votes)
Damn, this guy is a powerhouse. Clearly, a very solid monster who will be a constant pain for your opponent.
Exart
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (5 votes)
@Final_Fortune: CARDNAME always only refers to the specific card, not other cards with the same name, unless explicitly stated so. Meaning you can very well exile another Ichorid to get one onto the battlefield.

Regarding the original question I believe the answer would be no, since you don't choose the black creature to exile before the ability actually resolves. So if you choose the Ichorid#2 to exile with Ichorid#1's ability, Ichorid#2 won't be around anymore when his ability resolves and thus won't be put onto the battlefield even if you exile another black creature from your graveyard.
No shenanigans like with double Admonition Angel triggers.
UltimaCenturion
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0) (4 votes)
Not quite, Final Fortune. For example, if you have 2 putrid leeches out, you can't buff them both up 2 for only 2 life. If a card has its name on it, it refers only to that specific instance of its kind. Otherwise, it would say "a card with the name ____".
Exart is right. They can't target each other, because if one targeted the other, the other would not be around to activate its own effect. And if one targeted another black creature, the other couldn't target it because the other wouldn't be in the graveyard.
Polychromatic
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (5 votes)
The very first rare that I pulled. What an awesome card.
Hoonster
★★★☆☆ (3.3/5.0) (6 votes)
@Blurrymadness
You are an idiot for saying Ichorid should cost 1 cmc.
A. You are comparing the wrong card. As you said, Hellspark Elemental cost 2 and has trample. But you have failed to mention that you have to pay mana to return it and that it can be only used twice.
B. You are also forgetting the fact that this is a black card. Black is not the best card with haste. Black also has Dark Ritual. Can you see how 1 cmc with 3/1 haste that can comeback every turn with very little help would be broken in a color with Dark Ritual?
C. Your argument does not make sense. As you said, most of the cards with madness ability is unusable with its actual cmc. Because the whole point of the card is to pay the madness cost. Let me reiterate.
Ichorid is unusable with its actual cmc, because the whole point of the card is to return it from the graveyard to the battlefield using its ability. I don't understand why this card suffers from 'Kamigawa Syndrome', but madness, prowl, and any other ability that is bad with its actual cmc, but great with alternative cost do not.
blurrymadness
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (1 vote)
Having nabbed a few copies of this and built a deck of strange black creatures it works wonders. Mana screw, land hate, discard, control, etc.. A mix of this and Dredge even without Bridge From Below works well.

Basically it and dredge serve the similar purpose of making a robust deck that doesn't actually rely on the graveyard for success. If not casual, sure, you might need to ramp up the deck, but otherwise it's a significant powerhouse that allows for odd deckbuilding. Cards like this are what inspired me to get into magic and make weird decks.
luca_barelli
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (1 vote)
Pretty cool card, useful in all sorts of grave-based strategies. I still find it unusual that this was included in a precon.
night8883
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (2 votes)
Another one of the great horror cards. Almost invincible, once your opponents lay eyes on it they better get used to it. Ichorid is a beast and the art is perfectly nightmarish.
pedrodyl
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
Oh you're playing that Manaless Ichorid deck? Mind Funeral.
Goatllama
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
ICHORID NEEDS MORE PRAISE
PRAISE THE POWER AND GLORY OF THE ICHORID, TRAITORS
DarthParallax
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0) (3 votes)
Mind Funeral vs. Ichorid?! THAT'S THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD OF O.o pedrodyl fails at MTG :P

Even if you can mill them far more than the normal decks, hoping to get them because of a low land count, you still end up stacking their graveyard for them. and they'll always be playing Bazaar of Baghdad and probably Drakmor Salvage will get sided in against you. You can try to play that card, but Manaless Ichorid has very strong responses to it. If you don't kill them outright, you give them everything they need to kill you outright.

And I hope you are playing BUG, because if you aren't casting that Mind Funeral on turn 2, you are gonna die to Manaless Ichorid just because speed. :P
wstonefi
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Probably my favorite black card ever. He gets a 5/5 for the art alone; the fact that he's also super powerful in dredge decks is just an added bonus.
Lazrbeams
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
5/5 for the art
5/5 for power
5/5 for defining an archetype.

Ichorid deserves absolutely nothing less than 5 stars.