The best uncommon 4/4 green creature with a casting cost of 4... in the game.
Turlis
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
So if I have this card in my deck of thallids, it will put an additional spore counter on each card that already gets one, right? So if I have this card and Sporoloth Ancient both in play, I can get a 1/1 Saproling token every turn from every thallid derivative I have in play, right?
Do the 1/1 Saproling tokens also count as Fungi? Do they start generating more copies of themselves, too?
MasterVash
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0)(3 votes)
Yes, Sporesower + Saproloth Ancient will let you get a Saproling from every Fungus besides Sporesower each turn. No, Saprolings =/= Fungi so they won't generate spore counters of their own.
Staple card for any Thallid deck. More spore counters = more Saprolings = more pain.
BrutalJim
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(3 votes)
I like Cudgel Troll better, but he's definitely still good.
Dingo777
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0)(2 votes)
no saprolings are not fungus, BUT, conspiracy will make all your creatures fungus, and thuse you will be able to make you saprolings into saproling makers, but you lose out on sac saproling effects and other things that target saprolings or need saprolings
otherwise, dam this is good, and everything in a fungus deck gets better with a doubling season, sporoloth will mean, 4 counters go onto fungus, 4 counters come off, 2 tokens generations, doubled with the season, 4 saprolings
Ie. that is 1 spore counter = 1 saproling token
Tommy9898
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(2 votes)
I play him alone with no other fungi, he is that good. A nice beater that demands an answer and if they don't got one than it will get bad quickly.
Insanely useful for speeding up the effects of other Thallids.
Hoody-Frankz
★☆☆☆☆ (1.2/5.0)(3 votes)
So; Ok forgive me on this. I have looked over and over for a real claification on this card. I just started playing again after about 15 years. I was really excited to build a Thallid deck that wouldn't be so slow because of this guy. As I am paper building my deck (writing down my combos) I noticed that little rulings button on the bottom of his card page and my heart sank.
That onbivously is more dramatic than I acctually felt but I don't understand why they would make a ruling on this guy that effectively nullifies his ability.
"9/25/2006 Sporesower Thallid's triggered ability will put spore counters on Fungus creatures that aren't Thallids, though they generally won't have any effect on those creatures. "
So now from what I gather Thallids are still 1 spore counter per turn as per their own ability at upkeep, whereas with this guys ability it would have been 2 counters (1 for thallids ability and 1 for His).
So if I am understanding this properly; What other fungus' will bennifit from his ability and He is a Thallid so does this ruling affect the ability to put a spore counter on himself as well?
Any clarifacation would be helpful because it boggles my mind that he's being c*ck blocked like this.
bijart_dauth
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(2 votes)
@ hoody-frankz, all its saying is that fungus who are not thillids will also gain the extra token, it just dosn't do anything. Your thillids still gain the double counters.
jacktheinvisible
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(2 votes)
To answer Hoody franks question, What that means is that it will put a spore counter on all fungi you control. it does nothing more, nothing less. It is up to the fungus to use the spore counters. Since most thallids use sporecounters, it is not a problem.
rinoh20
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
mirror weave. that is all.
ICEFANG13
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This is an interesting lord, I don't have a link for what I'm about to say, but I know its true
When this was first thought up, it was a 2/2 for 3, and it changed over time to become this (there was a few steps)
In his current state, he does wonders for any fungus deck, you need to run some, he is the fungus (type) fungus (tribal) lord, just awesome, unlike another lord (Thelon of Havenwood) he is not legendary, and his extra effects are great! The other thing I like about it is, I play more control deck than aggressive, most of my wins are from them conceding so I don't use Thelon of Havenwood, he is more controlish.
Last thing I love about him, the body, I'd hate to say it, but I love turning him sideways and doing some damage, his toughness is so sweet too, after some board sweeps, he's hanging with Thallid Shell-Dweller getting some D ready.
Something that has always bothered me though, I dunno if I'd like him at 2/2 for 2 (he was never like this, but I think about it) a 3/3 for 3 or as he is, I can't come to a conclusion, the loss of mana is great for lords, cheaper is better, but 2 toughness is so small for him, 3 he would live many sweeps, but at 4, he just wrecks some face.
I suppose, its all moot, (he is a 4/4 for 4) I love to be timmy sometimes and just ATTACK with him!
scarecrowk
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0)(3 votes)
Spore Flower makes for fun. Every other turn gives you a fog... Every turn if you have two of one or the other.
I think the scariest thing about this creature is that in addition to absolutely breaking a tribe in its entirety, it's also a 4/4 for 4. Brutal creature on all fronts, and resistant to burn. Yikes.
@rinoh20 Mirrorweave looks amazing, but doesn't actually work barely at all You can't play this during the untap step as seen below:
502.3. No player receives priority during the untap step, so no spells can be cast or resolve and no abilities can be activated or resolve...
And at the beginning of the Upkeep step, the Thallid abilities go on the stack before you get priority to cast spells. If you already have three Sporesower Thallids in play and many creatures it could work like this: 1) three instances of the ST ability go on the stack 2) active player gets priority, casts mirrorweave letting it resolve. 3) three instances of ST ability gives three counters to all of your creatures, but the new ones are too late to trigger. 4) remove 3 spore counters from all of your creatures to double your creature total.
This is a good card that can be played without other types of Thallids, or can supercharge a Thallid deck. It is beautiful to see this function with old-school thallids like the spore flower and thorn thallid.
Missile_Penguin
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Nearly every card in Time Spiral was a throwback to at least one previously printed card.
This card references Thallid and Fungal Bloom, a card which help the Fungus tribe back in Fallen Empires. When combined with Sporoloth Ancient, your Fungus creatures can make a Saproling every turn!
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Do the 1/1 Saproling tokens also count as Fungi? Do they start generating more copies of themselves, too?
Staple card for any Thallid deck. More spore counters = more Saprolings = more pain.
otherwise, dam this is good, and everything in a fungus deck gets better with a doubling season, sporoloth will mean, 4 counters go onto fungus, 4 counters come off, 2 tokens generations, doubled with the season, 4 saprolings
Ie. that is 1 spore counter = 1 saproling token
That onbivously is more dramatic than I acctually felt but I don't understand why they would make a ruling on this guy that effectively nullifies his ability.
"9/25/2006 Sporesower Thallid's triggered ability will put spore counters on Fungus creatures that aren't Thallids, though they generally won't have any effect on those creatures. "
So now from what I gather Thallids are still 1 spore counter per turn as per their own ability at upkeep, whereas with this guys ability it would have been 2 counters (1 for thallids ability and 1 for His).
So if I am understanding this properly; What other fungus' will bennifit from his ability and He is a Thallid so does this ruling affect the ability to put a spore counter on himself as well?
Any clarifacation would be helpful because it boggles my mind that he's being c*ck blocked like this.
When this was first thought up, it was a 2/2 for 3, and it changed over time to become this (there was a few steps)
In his current state, he does wonders for any fungus deck, you need to run some, he is the fungus (type) fungus (tribal) lord, just awesome, unlike another lord (Thelon of Havenwood) he is not legendary, and his extra effects are great! The other thing I like about it is, I play more control deck than aggressive, most of my wins are from them conceding so I don't use Thelon of Havenwood, he is more controlish.
Last thing I love about him, the body, I'd hate to say it, but I love turning him sideways and doing some damage, his toughness is so sweet too, after some board sweeps, he's hanging with Thallid Shell-Dweller getting some D ready.
Something that has always bothered me though, I dunno if I'd like him at 2/2 for 2 (he was never like this, but I think about it) a 3/3 for 3 or as he is, I can't come to a conclusion, the loss of mana is great for lords, cheaper is better, but 2 toughness is so small for him, 3 he would live many sweeps, but at 4, he just wrecks some face.
I suppose, its all moot, (he is a 4/4 for 4) I love to be timmy sometimes and just ATTACK with him!
Every other turn gives you a fog... Every turn if you have two of one or the other.
Yo dawg, i herd you like tokens, so i made your saprolings able to make saprolings, so you can poop out saprolings while you poop out saprolings
4/5 Stars
@rinoh20
Mirrorweave looks amazing, but doesn't actually work barely at all
You can't play this during the untap step as seen below:
502.3. No player receives priority during the untap step, so no spells can be cast or resolve and no abilities can be activated or resolve...
And at the beginning of the Upkeep step, the Thallid abilities go on the stack before you get priority to cast spells. If you already have three Sporesower Thallids in play and many creatures it could work like this:
1) three instances of the ST ability go on the stack
2) active player gets priority, casts mirrorweave letting it resolve.
3) three instances of ST ability gives three counters to all of your creatures, but the new ones are too late to trigger.
4) remove 3 spore counters from all of your creatures to double your creature total.
This is a good card that can be played without other types of Thallids, or can supercharge a Thallid deck. It is beautiful to see this function with old-school thallids like the spore flower and thorn thallid.
This card references Thallid and Fungal Bloom, a card which help the Fungus tribe back in Fallen Empires. When combined with Sporoloth Ancient, your Fungus creatures can make a Saproling every turn!