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Chamber of Manipulation

Multiverse ID: 31868

Chamber of Manipulation

Comments (17)

stygimoloch
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (2 votes)
A very fun, surprisingly useful card. A bit niche and not tremendously stable obviously but worth having a play around with in casual formats, especially multiplayer
thaviel
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0) (3 votes)
This stupid thing keeps saving my girlfriend -.-'
holgir
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (4 votes)
It's a pity that the stolen creature doesn't have haste.
Nlky
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (2 votes)
U/R madness? It's instant creature snatch, combined with a more or less free discard effect.

Also, Bazaar Trader
Horsemanship
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Art thou mad!?

This is a great card, especially since combat no longer uses the stack. Opponent's turn, steal that Darksteel Collosus. Your turn, steal him. It's like that freeloading, giant metal friend.
Kryptnyt
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (2 votes)
""Until the end of turn" makes effects end at the beginning of the next end step."
Nope. If you use it on the end step, the end step checks again for "until end of turn" then it goes away.
For example, look at the rulings on Abyssal Nocturnus
Ladon---
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0) (2 votes)
I think everyone here is missing something very important.

"Until the end of turn" makes effects end at the beginning of the next end step. If you activate this during your opponent's end step, you gain control of the creature for the duration of your coming turn, it untaps if tapped, and does not have summoning sickness in response to changing owners.

Let me know if I'm missing something here, but it certainly seems that a repeatable, free Act of Treason every turn is something that would be way overpowered.

EDIT: @Kryptnyt
Thanks for clearing that up :D I guess all one would really need is to steal creatures with Haste built in!
skew
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (3 votes)
You guys! Puca's Mischief. "So, i'll borrow this from you and... exchange it for something other of your's! Deal ?"
exterion
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (3 votes)
The best thing about it is that you can "borrow" an attacking creature to remove it from combat, and then block something with it (hopefully killing one of the creatures in the process)
ScissorsLizard
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@Ladon: As a point of clarification, you have the right idea, but this card has the wrong text. If it had read "At the beginning of the next end step", you could activate it during the end step so it would carry over to the next turn.

Something else to remember when you're looking at this card- not only does the creature not gain haste, it also doesn't untap. So if you're using it to gain control of tapped, attacking creatures, you won't be able to block with them. Best use: gain control of their biggest creature each turn before they attack. That should dissuade them from attacking at all.

This card also combos well with madness, and Barrin, Master Wizard.
metalevolence
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@skew that doesn't work.
Zacklar
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@metalevolence in fact, it does
or why you say it doesn't?
pedrodyl
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Squee, Goblin Nabob goes good with this. Also, what in the name of Davy Jones' locker is a Nabob?
Smoke_Stack
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
combo with Ashnod's Altar and watch your friends never play against you again. ever.
feedbacker
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Use Alluring Sirene and this to force your opponents creatures into fighting each other
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Claws of Gix. Repeatable sacrifice target creature and gain 1 life.