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Staple a tap Mind Rot on a 3/3 body? Great black combo card material.

This guy's crazy. Repeatable Mind Rot at instant speed - only on your turn, but it's still really open. Activate it during your upkeep, or in response to them doing something.

If it could be 3/4 then it's gonna be much stronger, black and bolt-proof.

They should have just printed Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed, secondary marked be damned. It's not on the reserved list, and the reserved list is the only statement Wizards has made about protecting the secondary market, they shouldn't even consider the value of non-reserved list cards.

@ HerpaDerp

A recycling Mind Rot, none the less.

Jeez, that's amazing. That's my kind of general!

@ 001010011100101110
"This card, really isn't so good" Aha. I see.
What is a good card to you? Black Lotus? Ancestral Recall?
No s**t.
Even though this costs 5 CMC and is "only" a 3/3, it can render an opponent's strategy useless when they have to rely on one or two cards.
And remember what was said above, it's a RECYCLING Mind Rot, a card that costs 3 CMC. So If you only used his effect once, then technically, you just paid 2 CMC for a 3/3.

No one should try to debunk this card. It is close to being broken, but thanks to it's high cost, it's fair enough that people won't be angry after they play with you.

@ Nagorama: by that logic, we should be getting Foil Jace the Mindsculptor in Premium Deck Series: Force of Will Is Awesome any day now.


In Reality World, where I live, Wizards recognizes that such loopholes in the Reserve List really shouldn't be taken advantage of, because reprinting high-value cards that they had no obligation to withhold is what got them into this Reprint Policy mess in the first place. People whine and complain until Wizards promised to just stop reprinting any Rare or Mythic Rare card, in order to close any potential future loopholes like that.


Now, I'm not saying I don't partially agree with you, in DREAMS, but please refrain from saying things that are against reality. Instead phrase it like this: "If I were Wizards of the Coast, instead of the dumb jerks at Wizards of the Coast, I would have released From the Vault: Power by now. Screw the Money AND Screw the Rules!"

This card, really isn't so good. The only reason it has value is because it's a rare in Portals.

@Ferlord
Really, what I'm saying is that it's overrated. Of course it's a good card, but isn't as good as the rating suggests. Rather cast a 5 mana Mind Twist, or a Hypnotic Specter for two less mana, but, of course, it's still better than Abyssal Horror.

Turn 3: Thousand-Year Elixir
Turn 4: Dark Ritual, Cao Cao Lord of Wei. Tap him twice, opponent discards 4 cards

This guy is totally brutal in my casual Assassin deck. I wish Gwendlyn Di Corci wasn't on the reserved list and that they'd reprinted her instead, I splash her colors for my buddy Thrax anyways.

Very impressive card. I'd rate him higher if he wasn't such a pain to face off with. 4/5

I don't like what this card represents. If Wizards pays too much attention to the secondary market, reprints become limited, and the game suffers for it. The only reason why Xiahou Dun (The actual legend that was requested for this release) is so expensive is his scarcity. Since the card is a popular EDH card that does something completely unique (No other Black card can return so many card types from the graveyard), he should have been reprinted.

Instead, we got Cao Cao, Lord of Wei. Who wanted this card? It's a poor EDH general, and a card that does something a lot of black cards already do. The only really likeable thing about him is his importance to the Romance of Three Kingdoms plot.

Its a Mind Rot on a stick, whats not to love? This would make a fantastic EDH general, and there's a ton of ways to protect it with artifacts.

Whatever else you have to say about this card, I think we can all agree it looks absolutely phenomenal with the newer border and card template.

Guys, they probably reprinted it as they seemed to be thinking of the EDH market when they decided on this list, and this guy is an excellent discard based general. Xiahou Dun is cool, but a bit of a no-brainer, whereas this guy represents a deck type to experiment with.

At turn 5, your opponent is probably out of cards anyways.

And is Cao Cao really black? I mean, I get why he is, but really?

I call him"Cocoa, lord of Curds and Whey".

Wait a minute he should be a Lord not a Soldier, how could one of the greatest military commander in history being described as "pawn" alike?