Pointed Discussion

I don't really understand why they put cards like this in the decks.. They could've reprinted something that actually deserved it.

I hope masterofetherium unhinges his jaw, swallows you whole and absorbs your pedantic mumblings.

Greg, did you spend an afternoon posting that nonsense on EVERY card in the Commander decks that you don't like? Geez, just calm down already.

The real issue is the fact that this card has the very real possibility of being a "color hoser" effect on *your own creatures.*

It has the cost to be played in a multi-color deck, able to totally disable a black deck's defense in coordination with some vigilance, this could be a game-changer. I can imagine my opponent dreading to see this hit the field.
That, and the cost/power ratio is remarkably good, although, seeing that he can't block, I probably would have preferred that extra point in power instead of defense.

umm....I thought the EDH crowd was supposed to be tolerant and happy with most cards? able to see the uses clearly instead of being whiny dummies?


1. play a three color general, to get lots of good spells.
2. play mostly in two colors, black will be for spells, not creatures.
3. except this guy. who will hose all the other black decks, with their Mimeoplasms and their Skullbriars and their Karadors and their Ghaves and you get the point.
4. In non-EDH, you can have good enough manabases to where you run 4 of this guy in the sideboard, and no real 'black' sources, just prophetic prisms and the like. use AGAINST black decks.

just because he's a demon spirit, doesn't mean he plays nice with even his own color. Black does anything to win. up to and including betray itself.

He's not the best card in the world, but considering you get him in a deck that is not mono-black and 3 of the 5 decks that are being sold have black cards, his disadvantage could at least also hurt your opponents

crap. the drawback is WAY too much for the gain. 2B is good for 3/2, 3B should be good for 3/4. So +1/+1 for making all opponents characters unblockable. sounds fair

For a Kamigawa card, this was greatly costed.

Paired with darkest hour, all creatures can't block.

Throw in Ashenmoor Gouger, and this guy has nice synergy.

Nooboflore and Darthparallax are right: this can be a very good card vs black. It just takes a bit of thoughtful deck construction to turn his ability into a big advantage. It deserves higher than its current 2.3 rating.

@ all haters (no offence, there's just a lot of you),

This is made when you're barely splashing black for non-creature permanents.

Mind you, to play it in EDH, your general needs to be black. Therefore, the only general that'd not get hurt would be something super aggro, like Skullbriar.

He basically gives everything swampwalk. Best use for him is sideboard. Darkest Hour can help quite a bit or instead Touch of Darkness. If you consider those and his high splashability he's really decent in a blue/black deck looking for unblockables or similar; he's on curve and comboable, if mediocre

3/5

I have no idea why nearly every commenter here hasn't figured out that he's meant to be the only black creature in your multi-coloured deck.

I don't think I've ever seen quite so much derp in the comments before. I'm glad at least a few people also pointed out the PAINFULLY BLOODY OBVIOUS.

Play him with your unleashed creatures

He isn't meant to be the only black dude in a multicolored deck; hes a 4/5 beat stick for 4CMC. That is above the curve for black. While he would do well as the only black dude in a deck, he would do equally as well in a suicide (read:aggressive) monoblack deck. Why should black have to block with its own creatures when it can just as easily (sometime easier) kill the creatures on the other side of the board. I guess you "young people" never played a proper suicide black deck to understand....