This card won a Sealed Deck tournament for me, because I managed to get my hands on two of them. It's probably my favorite RG creature.
Mode
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I guess it would have been designed with deathtouch instead if they had designed this card these days. You can observe the same thing with lifelink.
Elfie
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(4 votes)
this is an awesome card. Any card without first strike that faces this card automatically dies because of deathtouch and the cobra stays alive.
Cholito
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(6 votes)
This has been nerfed somewhat under the new combat rules. Without deathtouch, it can't kill two creatures unless one has only 1 toughness.
JosirisDavid
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(4 votes)
Deathtouch with first strike is always deadly.
Just like wither with first strike.
PeterRabit
★☆☆☆☆ (1.2/5.0)(3 votes)
Cholito what the *** are you talking about? You can still divide damage among blockers, and this clearly states that any creature receiving said damage is destroyed, so no, it has not been nerfed by the rules
Champion_Kitsune
★★★★☆ (4.9/5.0)(6 votes)
Not to point fingers, but you guys are...sigh.
During the First-strike damage step, the Cobra deals "deathtouchy" damage to the opposing creature. The other creature will be killed before it can deal retaliatory damage to the Cobra (as long as that creature doesn't also have first strike or double strike). it is destroyed right then and there. Says so on the card...
Ragamander
★★☆☆☆ (2.9/5.0)(7 votes)
"So ... what is "lethal damage"? For the purposes of damage assignment, "lethal damage" is the amount of damage necessary for a creature to be destroyed, ignoring all abilities and damage prevention effects."
I believe the new rules do, in fact, nerf this card. The only thing that ignores the "lethal damage" requirement is the actual deathtouch keyword ability. "Deathtouchy" is insufficient, and, according to Oracle, Voracious Cobra has not received an errata.
Omenchild
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
He's right, deathtouch now specifically gives you the ability to divide up damage like in the old rules. the new (albiet RETARDED) rules dont let you move onto the next blocker unless you kill the first guy
izzet_guild_mage
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0)(3 votes)
Yup, this guy's nerfed. Oh well :/
blindthrall
★☆☆☆☆ (1.9/5.0)(4 votes)
A good example why I choose to ignore many of the new rules. Sorceress Queen refuses to be nerfed.
IshubarashI
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
in the words of Testament, FIRST STRIKE IS DEADLY!
PapikCZ
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(5 votes)
Due to new rules, combat damage no longer stays on stack, cobra's second ability no longer affects the battlefield as much as it used to be. If it faces stronger creature (toughnes more than two), that creaure will die after cobra.
GrimjawxRULES
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(5 votes)
Guys, this creature doesn't have Deathtouch, and it never had it. Deathtouch says affects ANY damage that the creature deals, and the ability of this creature says that it only affects COMBAT damge. Agreed, I would love it Wizards made an almost-deathtouch ability that errata'ed the ability of this creature to be static just as with regular deathtouch ... but no matter how you look at it, the damage dealt by this card is not deathtouch damage, and wasn't meant to be either.
Aburaishi
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The main difference you need to draw between this guy's ability and Deathtouch is the "combat damage" part. In other words, if you put an Arcane Teachings on a normal Deathtouch creature, it would be able to kill anything that isn't indestructible just by tapping; but on this guy, it would just do 2 damage, because he needs to be in combat for it to be auto-death.
Still a damn good card. Takes on Glissa, the Traitor without batting an eye.
Studoku
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Shame it doesn't have real deathtouch, but it's still a potent combination.
i am extremely confused. If he has first strike, does 2 damage, doesn't that kill the defending creature? I'm not getting why this card is nerfed. please, someone elaborate.
humor_love
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Like filthmontane, I'm unclear as to these 'new' rules which have 'nerfed' Voracious Cobra. I guess I'm not aware of them - either that or other people are either making stuff up or are themselves mistaken.
My understanding is the same as PeterRabit's: the Cobra is able to divide its two Power points between two blocking creatures, one point each. Once those points of damage have been dealt, one each to two blockers, those two blockers are destroyed. Furthermore, Cobra's combat damage is dealt as First Strike damage, PRIOR TO the combat damage of a creature without either First Strike or Double Strike.
Seems like others are saying that the second ability described on Cobra 'doesn't matter' unless one of the two creatures has one toughness - as if Cobra can't divide its damage between two blockers and apply its second ability to both points of combat damage. If this is so, then yes, it has been 'nerfed', and that sucks. I feel quite doubtful that THIS is the way the 'new' rules are applied to this creature and its abilities, however.
Someone else wrote about basically ignoring a lot of the new rules, such as the altered ('oracled') text of Sorceress Queen. I feel the same way about a lot of the 'new' rules I'm hearing about. I have never participated in any sanctioned events, and don't plan to, so I guess I can negotiate the rules with friends. :) Good deal.
luca_barelli
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
A green deck's worst nightmare. Kills their fatties all day long and they have few ways of responding
Pigfish99
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
you know, they should've had an ability that whenever it destroyed a creature via its ability, it gets a +1/+1 counter, and can't attack next turn.
tavaritz
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
If you play online you cannot ignore new rules, but here's what happens if two bears block this guy.
When first strike damage is dealt you must assign 2 damage to one bear because one damage is not lethal damage(1). So one bear dies, the other dosn't and kills this when normal damage is assigned.
(1) It doesn't matter that that damge has deadly side effects, combat damage is assigned from blocker to blocker that way. Excpet in case we have the keyword deathtouch.
OttoT
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I'm confused why you'd be using one of the greatest blocking cards to attack a pair of bears :|
BloodCrank
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
I don't know about you guys but first strike and deathtouch makes me horny.
jonrds
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Just to clear it up the rules confusion, according to the new rules:
An attacking creature picks an "order" in which to "fight" all the defending creatures. It must deal lethal damage to one before "fighting" the next. Since deathtouch means "any amount of damage is lethal", a deathtoucher may deal 1 damage before moving on to the next blocker. This must assign lethal damage before its ability is considered. That means this will die if it is blocked by 2 bears.
This is a relatively minor nerf, but it is a nerf. I personally hate this new form of combat, since fighting things "one at a time" is both dumb and more confusing than just assigning damage however you please.
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Just like wither with first strike.
During the First-strike damage step, the Cobra deals "deathtouchy" damage to the opposing creature. The other creature will be killed before it can deal retaliatory damage to the Cobra (as long as that creature doesn't also have first strike or double strike). it is destroyed right then and there. Says so on the card...
I believe the new rules do, in fact, nerf this card. The only thing that ignores the "lethal damage" requirement is the actual deathtouch keyword ability. "Deathtouchy" is insufficient, and, according to Oracle, Voracious Cobra has not received an errata.
Still a damn good card. Takes on Glissa, the Traitor without batting an eye.
Of course, Glissa, the traitor
My understanding is the same as PeterRabit's: the Cobra is able to divide its two Power points between two blocking creatures, one point each. Once those points of damage have been dealt, one each to two blockers, those two blockers are destroyed. Furthermore, Cobra's combat damage is dealt as First Strike damage, PRIOR TO the combat damage of a creature without either First Strike or Double Strike.
Seems like others are saying that the second ability described on Cobra 'doesn't matter' unless one of the two creatures has one toughness - as if Cobra can't divide its damage between two blockers and apply its second ability to both points of combat damage. If this is so, then yes, it has been 'nerfed', and that sucks. I feel quite doubtful that THIS is the way the 'new' rules are applied to this creature and its abilities, however.
Someone else wrote about basically ignoring a lot of the new rules, such as the altered ('oracled') text of Sorceress Queen. I feel the same way about a lot of the 'new' rules I'm hearing about. I have never participated in any sanctioned events, and don't plan to, so I guess I can negotiate the rules with friends. :) Good deal.
When first strike damage is dealt you must assign 2 damage to one bear because one damage is not lethal damage(1). So one bear dies, the other dosn't and kills this when normal damage is assigned.
(1) It doesn't matter that that damge has deadly side effects, combat damage is assigned from blocker to blocker that way. Excpet in case we have the keyword deathtouch.
An attacking creature picks an "order" in which to "fight" all the defending creatures. It must deal lethal damage to one before "fighting" the next. Since deathtouch means "any amount of damage is lethal", a deathtoucher may deal 1 damage before moving on to the next blocker. This must assign lethal damage before its ability is considered. That means this will die if it is blocked by 2 bears.
This is a relatively minor nerf, but it is a nerf. I personally hate this new form of combat, since fighting things "one at a time" is both dumb and more confusing than just assigning damage however you please.