I don't see why the land got such a bad rating. Sure, there are better lands, but it comes into play untapped and produces up to three different colors mana. That is a lot.
Savage lands come into play tapped, which is a huge disadvantage over this.
Sure, there is shimmering grotto, which is, in most cases, better. It's still not strictly better. Think about your opponent playing a thief deck, and he'd steal a land. If he'd steal the grotto, he'd have access to more blue mana. If he'd steal this land, he would just have colorless mana. Not saying that it's a huge advantage, but it still is a tiny advantage, ensuring that the grotto is not strictly better.
In short: I think the main reason why it got such a bad rating is that it's from homelands, and not because it's such a horrible card.
Travelsonic
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
The thing that kills this for me is not so much even the filter aspect of it - as that can be useful in the right place in the right deck, but the 2:1 cost, that is, paying to add to your mana pool or to add to your mana pool.
If it were to add , , or , then it'd be pretty cool as a filter land especially since it doesn't come into play tapped.
And remember, while Savage Lands comes into play tapped, unlike this, Savage Lands is not a filterland, as in, you just have to tap it to get , , or instead of paying and tapping to filter that into a single , , or mana.
Traius
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
"I don't see why the land got such a bad rating. Sure, there are better lands, but it comes into play untapped and produces up to three different colors mana. That is a lot.
Savage lands come into play tapped, which is a huge disadvantage over this.
Sure, there is shimmering grotto, which is, in most cases, better. It's still not strictly better. Think about your opponent playing a thief deck, and he'd steal a land. If he'd steal the grotto, he'd have access to more blue mana. If he'd steal this land, he would just have colorless mana. Not saying that it's a huge advantage, but it still is a tiny advantage, ensuring that the grotto is not strictly better.
In short: I think the main reason why it got such a bad rating is that it's from homelands, and not because it's such a horrible card."
Shimmering grotto IS strictly better. What your opponent may steal from you is not relevant to strictly better. A 2/2 for 2 mana is STRICTLY better than a 1/2 for 2 mana, even though if your opponent stole it from you, you'd rather it was a 1/2........
Once you start factoring in what the opponent could have, you start saying stuff like "a 4/4 for 4 is not strictly better than a 3/4 for 4 because they could have Intrepid Hero....."
TheDragonPlainswalkr
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
i rate it a horible 1/5... and yet ill still use it just to make my friends laugh at me... And because i'm CRAZY!!!
Phelplan
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
@Travelsonic I couldn't agree more. Ugh. This land cycle would have been so much better if it were just {T}: add , , or to your mana pool. The "comes into play untapped and still grants colorless mana" would have been a decent trade-off then.
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Savage lands come into play tapped, which is a huge disadvantage over this.
Sure, there is shimmering grotto, which is, in most cases, better. It's still not strictly better. Think about your opponent playing a thief deck, and he'd steal a land. If he'd steal the grotto, he'd have access to more blue mana. If he'd steal this land, he would just have colorless mana. Not saying that it's a huge advantage, but it still is a tiny advantage, ensuring that the grotto is not strictly better.
In short: I think the main reason why it got such a bad rating is that it's from homelands, and not because it's such a horrible card.
If it were
And remember, while Savage Lands comes into play tapped, unlike this, Savage Lands is not a filterland, as in, you just have to tap it to get
Savage lands come into play tapped, which is a huge disadvantage over this.
Sure, there is shimmering grotto, which is, in most cases, better. It's still not strictly better. Think about your opponent playing a thief deck, and he'd steal a land. If he'd steal the grotto, he'd have access to more blue mana. If he'd steal this land, he would just have colorless mana. Not saying that it's a huge advantage, but it still is a tiny advantage, ensuring that the grotto is not strictly better.
In short: I think the main reason why it got such a bad rating is that it's from homelands, and not because it's such a horrible card."
Shimmering grotto IS strictly better. What your opponent may steal from you is not relevant to strictly better. A 2/2 for 2 mana is STRICTLY better than a 1/2 for 2 mana, even though if your opponent stole it from you, you'd rather it was a 1/2........
Once you start factoring in what the opponent could have, you start saying stuff like "a 4/4 for 4 is not strictly better than a 3/4 for 4 because they could have Intrepid Hero....."