Pointed Discussion

This + kicked Rite of Replication = dead opponent?

180 points of lost life, to be precise

assuming you only had 1 out before

so, I Warp World and flip 2 Hagra Diabolist, and 4 other allies...
6 allies enter, each triggers 6 times, for 6 life = 216
?? ?
or would it be
2 (hagra) x 6 = 12 triggers
plus 4 (other allies) x 2 (hagra) = 8 triggers
=20 triggers, times 6 (allies) = 120 ?

I think I'm gonna take my calculator with me on Friday :)

If two Hagras enter an empty battlefield at the same time, then each one's triggered ability ("Whenever an ally...") is triggered twice (by itself and the respective other), for a total of 2 x 2 = 4 triggers.

For 5 Hagras entering, that'd be 5 x 5 = 25 triggers amongst each other. The one already in play adds another 5, so you're looking at a total of 30 trigger events, and hence, 30 copies of the ability's effect ("You may have target player lose...") on the stack.

At resolution, that's the 30 x 6 = 180 life loss sliverlord5000 was talking about.

For PastProphet's example above, you'd have 6 x 6 = 36 triggers total, each ally triggering 6 times (for 2 x 6 = 12 "Hagra triggers", or 72 life loss)

Ghostway

I love Hagrid Diabetes. It's my favorite ally besides Ondu Cleric

For each that would come into play, 6 triggered abilities would happen (its own ability and the other abilities) and since 5 come into play, 5x6. For each trigger, 6 damage is dealt (since 6 are in play) 5x6x6=180.

Therefore, 180 damage is dealt.

A*suming you only had 1 hagra (and no other allies) on the field before, rite of replication bring 5 on the field at the same time. So you have 6 hagra dealing 6 damage each. 6*6= 36 you will still probably kill your opponent, but 180? I would love to know how you reach that number with only 1 hagra on the field

Edit: never mind I forgot that each diabolist proc 6 time each so it:s 36*6

This really makes Allies awesome and is a great Black card.
4.0

if you can pull it off, three of these plus the rite of replication = six people dead in a big multiplayer game. at once.

This is the only semi-playable black ally, and even he costs too much.

Clearly the best Ally. Can win with Allies on turn 4 without attacking using this guy. Just need to run Harabaz Druid, some cheap white Allies, and Ghostway/Join the Ranks. Unchecked, you can cause enough life loss to take out a 5-6 man game by turn 7. Only downside is that you'll be enemy #1 when you start handing out little life loss presents around the table.

In a proper Ally deck, this guy can finish them off the turn you drop him if you use Harabaz Druid and Join the Ranks.

Never EVER let an allies deck get going, especially one with this or Ondu Cleric!